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Tony Schmidt wrote:
I totally understand what you are saying. I hate it when people reach out to me like that and try to act like they are doing me a favor. I'll never understand people like that.
22/06 22:26:53
caymanhost wrote:
Hi Tony,
Thanks for responding to my rant :)
I'm glad it's not just me.
The problem is that when people do this sort of thing it just adds fuel to the fire of why people view internet marketing as sleazy, dishonest and an annoyance. It's as bad as spam really, the net results on internet users' opinions just as negative.
Twitter for example, and all social networking sites really, are full of negative marketing stereotypes because so many people are deserving of the "schill" label.
Remember when teachers used to say 'there's always someone that has to spoil it for everyone else......"? Never a truer word spoken when it comes to marketing online.
Thanks for responding to my rant :)
I'm glad it's not just me.
The problem is that when people do this sort of thing it just adds fuel to the fire of why people view internet marketing as sleazy, dishonest and an annoyance. It's as bad as spam really, the net results on internet users' opinions just as negative.
Twitter for example, and all social networking sites really, are full of negative marketing stereotypes because so many people are deserving of the "schill" label.
Remember when teachers used to say 'there's always someone that has to spoil it for everyone else......"? Never a truer word spoken when it comes to marketing online.
23/06 02:15:28
Wzorki wrote:
When you decide to become a marketer, you decide to start slowly selling your soul. Sounds dumb, but in a way that's the truth. Think about it: you spend 40-50 hours a week convincing ignorant people that the crap you sell is not only better than the same exact crap your competition is selling, it's also worth the ridiculous price you're asking for it! And people buy it! I can understand their attitude and lack of respect, people keep falling for their tricks so they must be inferior...
Having said that, I don't like it one bit. But that's how the world works nowadays ..
Having said that, I don't like it one bit. But that's how the world works nowadays ..
30/06 08:12:54
caymanhost wrote:
@Wzorki
Proves my point exactly. Marketers are all tarred with the same brush because so many people have had bad experiences with one of the bad ones, of which there are many.
Human nature is such that when one person adopts and teaches an "anything goes" approach to anything and has been successful, or claims to have been successful, a horde of others will follow and so the cycle continues.
When it comes to money, the vast majority of humans have very little conscience I'm afraid.
Proves my point exactly. Marketers are all tarred with the same brush because so many people have had bad experiences with one of the bad ones, of which there are many.
Human nature is such that when one person adopts and teaches an "anything goes" approach to anything and has been successful, or claims to have been successful, a horde of others will follow and so the cycle continues.
When it comes to money, the vast majority of humans have very little conscience I'm afraid.
30/06 12:04:11
Cathy from How To Make Money Fast Online wrote:
I'd been reading too many emails like that. They used that kind of strategy of scarcity.
Yes, I agree with you that won't build credibility to our subscribers. It's exactly a dirty quick of marketing.
Yes, I agree with you that won't build credibility to our subscribers. It's exactly a dirty quick of marketing.
07/07 09:28:30
caymanhost wrote:
Hi Cathy,
I find it hard to believe that too many people stay subscribed to lists like that for long. Selling is not a crime, but the way some people go about it is nothing short of foolish.
I find it hard to believe that too many people stay subscribed to lists like that for long. Selling is not a crime, but the way some people go about it is nothing short of foolish.
08/07 13:02:30
Stancje Warszawa wrote:
Forget that lying and misleading is immoral. Just look at it this way - in short term it'll make you some money but sooner or larer you'll seriously regret it.
20/07 07:13:33
Jason Tipp wrote:
In every branch there are always people who want just to earn money and no matter what will be the cost of that. And no matter that will they do to other people. This is just an example of people behavior, so typical for modern man. Truly sad. But the good thing is that not all are like that, some people still value good and right things.
02/12 07:07:49
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21/06: Internet Marketing Lies and Stupidity
I have a bee in my bonnet today, and it was caused by an email I received on one of the lists I am subscribed to.
If you are or have been involved in internet marketing for any length of time, or even if you haven't, you've probably at least seen examples of what I'm going to write about today.
I'm going to cover several points in this post
1) Marketers who speak with forked tongues
2) Marketers who patronize their so called "valued" subscribers
3) Marketers who forget that credibiilty is easily shattered
4) Marketers who believe that to mislead or outright lie in pursuit of a dollar is the acceptable norm and is actually fiendishly clever.
The email I recieved was one in a familiar vein, that went something like this:
"If you missed the launch of product blah blah....."
"It sold out in fifteen minutes so don't bother visiting the link because they've all been disabled...."
"BUT, I am going to do you a huge favor! I'm going to give you a copy entirely free, all you have to do is...."
Sold out? Really? A digital video information product that is sold out? So they have no more copies of these videos, they destroyed the files themselves or did someone break into their homes and steal their hard drives, raid their hosting company and carry of the servers in the dead of night?
Maybe that is what happened but surely they could contact one of the mugs, sorry, customers, who bought it and ask them for a copy, or am I being naive here? Where is my free copy going to come from? It's all very worrying.
OK, so they've taken down the links on the salespage temporarily. Let's be honest here folks, we all know it will be back up and running in the near future, if it's such a great seller why would you stop selling it? It's not a membership site or a software product, it's just a bunch of videos.
So, I think we can say that heroic email marketer is guilty of sins one through four above already, but not satisfied with this he makes it worse with his special offer to me, his "valued subscriber".
Now remember, although it is sold out, he is going to give me a copy for free. Lucky me, I can't wait, it's too much excitement for a hot and muggy Sunday afternoon in the Caribbean. He tells me that ALL I have to do is take a trial of another Clickbank product for just $4.95. As it's a product I'm very familiar with, I already know that after taking that trial period I will have to hand over a monthly membership fee of $67.00 should I want to keep using it. I also know that the product in question pays a healthy recurring monthly commission to affiliates.
Now, lest we forget, he is doing me a favor, not the other way around, so of course the email neglects to mention any of these pertinent facts.
This is marketing at its lowest level. I don't care what labels the promoter might put on it - bonuses, deals, never to be repeated, you'll thank me forever etc. etc. The truth of the matter is that it is good old fashioned bullshit designed to trick the unwary or inexperienced. The product he is trying to sell, in order for you to get something for "free", is not for the inexperienced either, something I also know for a fact. It's not a bad product, but as usual the sales copy skims over a lot of the facts with a lot of these $$$$$$$! Besides, doesn't something stop being free the moment you hand over money?
My point is this - if you are new to the whole internet marketing hooplah, don't be taken in by people like this who are the reason that marketing online is so damned hard a lot of the time, and please, whatever you do, don't think these kinds of tactics are the only way to succeed and are something you should be emulating.
Find some decent and helpful people to learn from and help others by passing on your knowledge and experience.
For this subscriber, it was a very quick bye bye to that list and I hope I'm not the only one either. Why build a list and completely destroy your credibility with emails like this? (For information on how to use email marketing in an ethical and non-scummy way I recommend you read the New Age Email Marketing Report)
If you genuinely feel that life is too short to live it honestly and don't believe that there is more to life than easy money on the internet, or anywhere else, then you won't care what I think. The "nice guys finish last" philosophy might help people like this guy sleep at night, but do you really want someone like that to get their grubby hands on your hard earned money?
Think about it. That's all I'm saying.
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